Friday, September 17, 2010

Easing In With Jaaaake!! (Ryan)

Got my first couple hours in on the Jake today with a combination of rail trails, roads, and PA shit roads. There was a lot of good to be had, and a little bad (although from what I right it seems like there was more bad).

The Good: The frame has much more compliance and give than I anticipated. I expected a harsh aluminum ride, I got forgiving. Then again, I'm pushing 2 bills right now, every bike/chair/floor has some give. Anyway, whether it was going from 100 psi road tires to 35c cross tires, there was some nice cush for the push.
More Good: The wheels seem to spin up way faster than my (now) vintage Bontrager road wheels that came on my old 2004 Trek road bike (now gone), even with cross tires! The Conti tires also seem to roll smooth on pavement but grip the shit/dirt when in needed. Durability = suspect. The fork seemed pretty darn OK too. Better than steel? Who knows? But I'm not bitching right now, so that is a bonus.

The Bad: Granted, I am using this bike as a gravel/shit road/randonneur type bike and NOT as a cross "race" bike, so take this for what its worth, but the down tube bottle mount is WAY LOW. Reaching the DT bottle is like trying to touch the ground whilst riding. Not horrible, but still sort of a nut crusher to lean that far over.
The 10 speed gearing... Give me 9 speeds! The 10 speed cassette shows as a dramatic lag between say gears 6 and 7 or so. Very noticeable. The 105 shifters are good, but still not as crisp as my older '04 Ultegra bitz. Not BAD, just not as good But again I am can be critical due to the SUPER crisp SRAM shifting of my mountain bikes.
Canti brakes: Ha! "Brakes" they give the illusion of braking, but the lag between braking and stopping is VERY much noticeable compared to disc brakes, road brakes, and V-brakes. Also, during steep descents back off the saddle, my meaty calves seem to brush the rear brake. Not a big deal, but noticeable. I really did enjoy the bike, even with all my bitching. It rode nicely, felt compliant, and should be just the ticket for XXCross events, and what not. I plan to to some more rigorous testing tomorrow.

One more complaint (all my fault): I was using my Mountain Feed Bag today. Not sure why I think I can get it to work on road/cross bike but it doesn't. The problem is that if I need to climb out of the saddle my knee brushes the bag. I tried to flop it so it would be further a way from the knee, but that didn't work out. Maybe getting a left handed bag and using it on the right would work? Hmmmm.....


Anyway, it was fun to get the bike out, and I am happy with the purchase, but I still long for a Ti/steel CX bike, with disc brakes (and a canti option) room for up to 40c tires. In the future I think that I might ditch the 105 rear derailleur for a MTB derailleur and a bigger cassette. This SHOULD be an option with the lower cost SRAM/Shimano 10 speed MTB offerings in the works. Again, NO cross racer would care to do this, but I'm not talking about racing Cross, I'm talking about epic shit road stuff.

More feedback to come.

Later.

posted by Jason @ 7:07 PM   9 comments

9 Comments:

At 10:08 PM, Blogger b said...

Your issues with the brakes (both lack of power and hitting them with calves) is pretty common with cross bikes. Stopping on fast downhills is hit or miss! Oh, how I long for a road bike.

 
At 10:46 PM, Blogger Manicmtbr said...

Nice bike.

I would like to see more of the polish princess. I have watched that video twice and the one thing I noticed each time is how quickly the top women spin thier cranks. Totally smooth and fluid. It is way different from my masher style, but I am working on that for 2011 (and have been for a few weeks now).

I would be happy with more World Cup videos. That was really great coverage you posted there.

 
At 11:02 PM, Blogger Jason said...

B. Yeah, I really don't know how you do all that road riding with those brakes! Ha!

James- There is more coming for sure!

 
At 12:57 AM, Blogger Richard said...

Having bottle mounts low is rather standard for a CX bike. It makes shouldering easier if someone happens to have a bottle cage in a race. You can probably get around this by using a larger bottle. I'd recommend the Zefal Magnum.

I had Sram 10-speed on my 'cross bike and never experienced any lag in shifting.

Your braking problem could be from too much slack in the cables and/or misaligned pads.

 
At 7:58 AM, Blogger Jason said...

Richard- That does make sense on the mount. Thanks. Don't be mistaken, the brakes work well, just NOT as well as what I'm used to. By the end of the ride I was getting more used to them for sure. Knock on wood at least they're now howling, like the cantis on my old cross bike!

 
At 4:14 PM, Blogger Shred said...

You'll have to let me know how the wheels hold up. I bent the crap out of the ones on my ? 2009 ? Jake. Riding 100psi on PA pothole ridden roads with 23mms skinnies probably didn't help the cause still it seems like if I look at them funny they bend.

 
At 7:23 PM, Blogger Jason said...

Ouch, that's not cool.

 
At 9:37 PM, Blogger Shred said...

Nevermind I see in your previous post you got Jake the Snake... Mavics, it comes with a set of real rims.

 
At 10:23 AM, Blogger Jason said...

Good! For me. Sorry about yours.

 

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